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that-spider-witch Ā· 4 years ago
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OnĀ ā€œDeadā€ Cultures and Closed Spiritual Practices: Why Colonialism Is Still A Problem.
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Let me start this by saying that, as far as my knowledge of Paganism and Polytheism as a whole goes, Iā€™m what the internet witch community calls aĀ ā€œBaby Witchā€. Iā€™m stating this out of the gate because I know there will be lots of people, including witches who have more experience on the craft than me, who might decide to ignore what I have to say based on that fact alone, stating that Iā€™m not knowledgeable enough to give my opinion about this.
Hereā€™s the kicker: Iā€™m a ā€˜baby witchā€™, yes, but Iā€™m also a twenty-six year old Venezuelan woman. Iā€™m an adult. Iā€™m Latina. Iā€™m a Christian-raised Pagan,but Iā€™m also a Latinoamerican woman over all other things including that. I grew up on this culture, these are my roots. It is because of this background than Iā€™m writing this post today.
Looking through theĀ ā€œPaganismā€ and ā€œWitchcraftā€ tags of this website, Iā€™ve seen a few posts throwing indigenous deities and spiritsā€™ names around on lists alongside deties of open cultures. Yes, you can know better by doing your own research and not going by what just a random Tumblr user wrote on one post (as I hope its the case with everyone on this website), but the fact that pagan beginners are still getting fed misinformation is still worrisome to me.
Thereā€™s nothing like reading a so-called expert putting Ixchen (Maya), Xolotl (Nahuatl) and Papa Legba (Vodou) on the same damn list as Norse, Hellenic and Kemetic deities and tagging it on the tags aimed at beginners who might not know better to truly ruin your morning. Iā€™m not mentioning user names here: If you know then you know.
To quote @the-illuminated-witch on her very good post about Cultural Appropriation:Ā 
ā€œCultural appropriation is a huge issue in modern witchcraft. When you have witches using white sage to ā€œsmudgeā€ their altars, doing meditations to balance their chakras, and calling on Santa Muerte in spells, all without making any effort to understand the cultural roots of those practices, you have a serious problem.
When trying to understand cultural appropriation in witchcraft, itā€™s important to understand the difference between open and closed magic systems. An open system is one that is open to exchange with outsiders ā€” both sharing ideas/practices and taking in new ones. In terms of religion, spirituality, and witchcraft, a completely open system has no restrictions on who can practice its teachings. A closed system is one that is isolated from outside influences ā€” usually, there is some kind of restriction on who can practice within these systems.ā€
A counter-argument Iā€™ve seen towards this when someone wants to appropiate indigenous deities and spirits is to use theĀ ā€œdead cultureā€ argument:Ā Extinct cultures are more eligible for use by modern people of all stirpes. It is a dead culture and dead religion. It would be one thing if some part of the culture or religion was still alive, being used by modern descendants, but the culture died out in its entirety and was replaced, right? They were all killed by colonization, they are ancient history now, right?
Example: ā€œIf white people are worshipping Egyptian deities now, then why canā€™t I worship [Insert Aborigen Deity Here]?ā€
To which I have two things to say:
Ancient Egyptā€™s culture was open and imperialistic, meaning they wanted their religion to be spread. This is why Kemetism is not Cultural Appropriation, despite what some misinformed people might tell you. Similar arguments can also be made for the Hellenic and the Norse branches of Paganism, both practiced by people who arenā€™t Greek/Norse.
Who are you to say which cultures areĀ ā€œdeadā€ and which are not?
Religious practices such as Vodou and SanterĆ­a certainly arenā€™t dead, not that it keeps some Tumblr users from adding Erzuli as aĀ ā€œgoddessā€ on their Baby Witch post, something that actual Vodou practitioners have warned against.
Indigenous cultures such as the Maya and the Mapuche arenā€™t dead, despite what the goverment of their countries might tell you. The Mapuche in particular have a rich culture and not one, but two witchcraft branches (The Machi and the Kalku/Calcu). Both are closed pagan practices that the local Catholic Church hasĀ continuously failed to assimilate and erase, though sadly not for lack of trying:
ā€œThe missionaries who followed the Spanish conquistadors to America incorrectly interpreted the Mapuche beliefs regarding both wekufes and gualichos. They used the word wekufe as a synonym for ideas of the devil, demons, and other evil or diabolical forces. This has caused misunderstanding of the original symbolism and has changed the idea of wekufe right up to the present day, even amongst the Mapuche people.ā€
For context, the Wefuke are the Calcuā€™s equivalent of the Familiar, as well as reportedly having more in common with the Fae than with demons anyway.
This and other indigenous religions are Closed because it is wrong for foreigners to just come and take elements from marginalized groups whom are still fighting to survive and that they werenā€™t born into. To just approppiate those things would be like spitting in their faces, treating them and their culture like a commodity, a shiny thing, a unique thing to be used like paint to spruce up your life or be special.
I know some of you are allergic to the wordĀ ā€œPrivilegeā€, but on this situation there really ainā€™t a better word to explain it. You werenā€™t born here, you donā€™t know what it is like, you are only able to see the struggle from an outsiderā€™s point of view.
If a belief or practice is part of a closed system, outsiders should not take part in it. And with how many practices there are out there which are open for people of all races, there is really no excuse for you to do it.
Why Colonization Is Not ā€œAncient Historyā€
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If you have kept reading all this so far, you are probably wonderingĀ ā€œOk, but what does Colonization has to do with any of this?ā€
The answer? Everything.
With the general context of culture appropriation out of the way, let me tell you about why the wholeĀ ā€œdead cultureā€ argument rubs me the wrong way: Here in Venezuela, we have a goddess called Santa Maria de la Onza, or Maria Lionza for short, whomā€™s idol statue I have been using to illustrate this little rant. If you happen to know any Spanish, you might recognize the name as a derivative of Santa Maria, aka the Virgin Mary, and you are mostly correct: Her true indigenous name is theorized to have been Yara.
And I say ā€œtheorizedā€ because it is a subject of hot debate whether she was really ever called that or not: Her original name, the name by which she was adored and worshipped by our ancestors, might have been forever lost to history.
Thatā€™s the legacy of colonization for you: Our cultures were stolen from us, and what they couldnā€™t erase they instead tried to assimilate. Our ancestors were enslaved, their lands and homes stolen, their artwork and literary works destroyed: The Maya and the Aztec Empire were rich in written works of all kinds, ranging from poetry to history records to medicine, and the Spaniards burned 99% of it, on what is probably one of the most tragic examples of book burning in history and one that people rarely ever talk about.Ā 
People couldnā€™t even worship their own gods or pass their knowledge of them to their children. Thatā€™s why Maria Lionza has such a Spanish Catholic-sounding name, and thatā€™s why we canā€™t even be sure if Yara was her name or not: The Conquistadors couldnā€™t steal our goddess from us, so they stole her name instead. Catholics really have a thing with trying to assimilate indigenous goddesses with the Virgin Mary, as they tried to do the same with the Pachamama.
On witchy terms, Iā€™d define Maria Lionza as both a deity and a land spirit: Most internet pages explaining her mention the Sorte mountain as her holy place, but it is more along the lines that she is the mountain.Ā 
Youā€™d think that, with Venezuela and other Latinoamerican countries no longer being colonies, weā€™d be able to worship our own deities including her, right?
As far as a lot of Catholics seem to think and act, apparently we are not.
The Catholics here like to go out of their way to shame us, to call us ā€œcultistsā€, to ostracize us, with a general call toĀ ā€œrefrain from those pagan beliefsā€ because they go against the Catholic principles. Yes, the goddess with the Catholic-sounding name, a name she happens to share with a Catholic deity, apparently goesĀ ā€œagainst Catholic principlesā€. You really canā€™t make this shit up.Ā (Linked article is in Spanish)
This is just an act of colonization out of many, of not wanting to stop until the culture they want to destroy is gone. Donā€™t believe for a second that this is really their Godā€™s will or anything like that, they are just trying to finish what years of enslavement and murder couldnā€™t. They might not be actively killing us anymore, but they still want us dead.
So no, colonization is not some thing that has long passed and now only exist on history textbooks: It is still happening to this day. It is by treating it as old history that they can keep doing it, and it is by pushing the narrative that our indigenous cultures areĀ ā€œdead culturesā€ that they try to erase our heritage.
Because we are not dead. We are still here, we are alive, we have survived and weā€™ll keep on surviving, and our gods and goddesses are not yours to take.
Ā”Chao! šŸˆ
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howl-wind-sing Ā· 8 years ago
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Hola Seff! Blue Ź• ā€¢į“„ā€¢Ź” here! I just wanted to randomly stop by and say I love your taste in music! Aver si un dia me das unas recomendaciĆ³n de unas bandas o canciones. Que tengas un buen noche. Talk to you soon. ļ½”ā—• ā€æ ā—•ļ½”
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~
also thanks
Recomendaciones! in no particular order
E.S. Posthumus (the three wonderfull albums that resonate with my soul) || Kokia (battle of destiny + il mare dei sonoĀ + road to glory) || Ā Art tonelico songs (all of them, but my fav: exec_cosmoflips + exec_flip_arphage +Ā  EXEC_RIG=VEDA/.Ā ) ||Ā Ā Daft punk (dear sky, interestellar 5555 whole album) ||Ā madeon (this french peeps and their awesome electronic music wth) ||Ā studio killers ||Ā jen titus oh deathĀ || artic monkeys, panic at the disco, gotye - state of the art, the killers, empire of the sun, foster the people - pump up kicks (itā€™s super catchy) ,Ā alt-J (āˆ†) Breezeblocks, chet faker, kiesza, clean banditĀ (x, x),Ā 
Lykke Li - I Follow Rivers ( I can even begin to express why I started crying. yo - i was looking for this song for a year at least, omg, Iā€™m so glad I decided to scratch youtube to present you with some of my fav songs, oh yes, finally. oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy- everynow and then I remember a song and I expend days searching, sometimes longer, and if I canā€™t find it, it eats at me. but here it is! HNNNG)
Hozier, imagine dragons,Ā Mumford & Sons, daughter, Of Monsters And Men, woodkid, Sia, Ā david guetta, Hans Zimmer, Ivan torrent, thomas bergersen, gorillaz, phaeleh, Ā emancipator, nujabes, thievery corporation, soley, Ā we lost the sea, Ā low roar, Luzmila Carpio (remix+ZZK), icarosĀ [for anyone wondering the language of the last two: itā€™s Quechua], tonolecĀ [language: Toba], electrojazz, electrotango (and usual tango as well)~Ā 
And because Iā€™m garbage, my trash tastes: crack/meme/vine music. Yes. Those corny songs? like mmm watcha saaaaay, those? I love those. Sometimes I put a compilation of memes/crack/parody videos in the background, cause the catchy tunes keep me up~ exampleĀ (fma crack video, beware spoilers!)
I love browsing youtube without an account, so it can keep track of my tastes and actually offer me variety.
I go fromĀ ā€œletā€™s hear a bit of all the songsā€, to hear the same song every day, for days, in loop.
I have a whole lot more of songs I could name, but I suck at remembering names/titles/authors/singers. And I should keep it short. Short-ish.
Also, chat me up whenever
Hope you have a beautifull day!~Ā 
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